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Gibson
Guitars Require A Major Redesign

Les Paul
Necks Are All Prone To Easy Breakage!!!
Why is it, that one of the most expensive
guitars on the planet.
is famous for the fact that the necks
always break?
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Question: Is the headstock angle designed wrong?
Answer:
YES
Question: Is the guitar too
heavy?
Answer:
Definitely YES
Question: Is the
weight distribution incorrect?
Answer:
Definitely YES
Question: Is the case poorly designed?
Answer: Yes most of
the time, depending on the year
Question: If they put a
volute on the neck would that solve the problem?
Answer: Maybe,
It would definitely be a step in the right direction
Question: why
doesn't Gibson put a volute in the neck.
Answer: Don't Know the answer, it
would seem to be a clear admission of guilt. If they
actually finally fixed the original design.
Question:
Is mahogany a good choice for a neck wood?
Answer:
Most luthiers prefer
hard rock maple on electrics.
Question: Is the guitar poorly
designed?
Answer:
In Ed Roman's opinion the guitar is poorly designed
I have said for years that
Gibson should simply break all the necks at the factory
before the guitars are even painted. (Some
people think I'm Joking;
Actually I'm
quite serious !!!!
I know that sounds crazy, but consider
this. They rarely if ever break once they have been glued.
Every Luthier knows that glue is far stronger than wood. If
Gibson did this to their guitars, they could simply paint
them after the repair, there would be no visible break
and the integrity of the instrument would actually be
better. This would be far
cheaper for them than using
quartersawn wood
and doing a 5 piece lamination which would probably also fix
the problem.
I have a large repair
shop. I fix a lot of Gibson broken necks,
The fix is easy and
cheap because
they all break in exactly the same place. They are
all held together by their trademarked plastic "Bell Shaped"
truss rod cover or by the thin phenolic overlay on the
headstock. I can fix most of them usually
for just a one hour labor charge and make good money doing
it. What gets expensive is camouflaging or painting over the
break to hide the ugly scar the break leaves.
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Astound You !!
We fix
more Gibson Les Paul & SG Broken necks than all other broken
necks put together from all the other companies in the world
put together!!!
Here's the real funny
part !!! I cannot remember ever fixing a
broken neck on any Les Paul Copy. I'm sure some of them had
to break but in my 33 years in this business I personally
cannot remember ever seeing one. There are over 100
companies out there that make dead on Les Paul Copies &
probably about 500 of them that make close approximations.
There are countless more that make singlecut style guitars
in various shapes, weights & sizes. I have personally
seen forgeries and actual counterfeit guitars.
I swear to the fact that I cannot remember ever fixing a
broken neck on any of those guitars.
 Whether it be an Ibanez, Tokai,
Heritage, Tradition, Samick, Washburn, Dean, Hamer, PRS,
Burny, Jibson, Madore, Guild, Triggs, Tom Holmes,
Stephenson, Dillion,
or even an Epiphone which is Gibson's cheapo exact copy of
their own guitar. Why don't their necks break? I
have absolutely no idea, I'm supposed to be some kind of
guitar guru and I'm completely at a loss to explain that.
It's the mystery of the ages. It makes no sense!!! Yet
facts are facts simple & true!!!
As guitars go Fender is probably the most
copied brand, then Gibson and Mosrite comes in at a distant
third. This page is about Gibson so I will stick to that
subject.
Guild, Hamer,
JET, Holmes, etc etc all build a better Les Paul
style guitar than Gibson. Common sense dictates that if they
didn't make it better they couldn't sell it. After all they
all cost more than Gibson
does. There are plenty of companies
that charge a lot less and still build a better guitar. Notably
Ibanez, Tokai, Heritage, Burny,
I am planning on putting up a bunch of
photos of broken neck guitars. Please send me
photos of what happened to your guitar. (Any Brand). I
will post them all. I'll bet money that the Gibsons will
always rule on the broken neck page.
 
Letter From A Consumer
Ed, I have spent an hour or so reading thru
your web site dialogue with respect to American vs non-American
made guitars..............first thanks for your honesty....there
are probably a few folks that are not your best friend for your
comments, but so what....
I'm 57, and have had many LP's Strats and the like over the last
40 years......but I am just a fan/aficionado of the instrument
now, as my playing is for my own amusement and psychological
well-being.....
I own about 15 electrics, and except for a PRS I acquired VERY
cheaply, all my guitars were made in Japan, Korea, and Indonesia
and China.....I am a Tokai freak, and I have one Tokai Strat
from 77 or so that is a keeper....
but I have 3 LP's, a 335, a V and and Explorer....all
Tokai's.....average cost to me about $400 or so.....I have
modified some pickup combinations, but the main comment from
anyone and everyone that has seen these guitars (including
dealers) is just what great guitars they are...
And why not? what is the culture that disdains a well made
guitar from a foreign land? since I can't pay $20 grand for a 65
Strat.....am I crazy? I used to buy the same guitars by the
handfuls for $150 each....in today's market I guess I would be a
rich man...oh well, too bad, so sad...
thanks for the comments.....what a nice breath of air......
Rick Johnson (the attachment is of my home guitar wall)
Rick
I have played many copy Gibsons that are every bit the same or
better quality than what Gibson peddles. My issues with Gibson
are the fact that the designs are primarily incorrect. The
pickups are misplaced the headstock is too big. The headstock
angle is wrong, The necks break like tissue paper, The weight is
incorrectly distributed, The Guitars are muddy sounding, They
weigh far too much, The necks are too short, The neck joint
prevents sound from transmitting to the pickups, The pickups are
floating, The inlays are plastic, I could go on but what's the
point. The guitars you own could easily be better than
Gibson but they still have the same design flaws because they
are copies. (Although I've never seen a broken copy)
Ed Roman

Rick Johnson's Guitars
Hi there--I haven't purchased any of your guitars (doh!) but I
found you site incredibly informative, and wanted to send you a heads-up if
someone hadn't already.
You bashed Les Pauls (which I think was deserved--I started playing on a Les
Paul and have owned quite a few) and it reminded me of a "Some Assembly
Required" episode I saw on cable (the Discovery Channel). They show the process
of making this and that, and they had an episode in the Gibson factory where
they followed a Les Paul through the factory.
I've built my own electrics for decades . . . Not that I'm a super expert,
but I know one end from the other. I was AMAZED watching this. Yeah, the host
was building one and he did the usual "I don't know what I'm doing but I'm
trying" job. But, the REAL guys putting them together . . . There was one shot
where a guy was slamming unbent fret wire into the neck with a VERY big hammer
(I suppose the hammer bent the fret to the fingerboard?) from one long piece of
wire (I thought you prebent and precut?) and then nipping it off afterwards. He
slammed them in like he was putting up drywall--fret down, bam bam, nip, fret
down, bam, bam, nip . . . For something that everyone thinks is "the top guitar
there is" it was truly horrible.
In the space of the ten minutes or so they were in the Gibson factory I saw at
least six or eight things I would NEVER do to my own guitar . . . If you haven't
already, you need to watch it for yourself. Amazing.
Anyway, I love your site, and just thought you might like to see this.
Don
Thanks Don
Gibson has been getting with murder for
years. They have a core base of uninformed close minded people who simply don't
get what is going on in the world today.
I am noticing it more and more that many people are starting to smarten up. I am
encouraged by the amount of letters like yours that I get. I should print
them all but there just isn't room. Someone should start a website "Gibson
Quality Issues .com or something stronger maybe. I have hundreds of
letters on file that I could send them. If you know any one interested in
putting up a site I will subsidize them !!!!
Ed
Love the site (Especially the
"Rants")I'm surprised not to see any
mention of the intonation problems associated with USA made
Gibson guitars.
On most Gibson electrics the
scale length from the nut to 12th fret is 24.562"
No problem with that...but the
scale length above the 12th fret is 24.75.
At the 22nd fret, the error is
about 0.04".
About half the width of the
fret)
Copies (including Epiphone) don't
have this fault.
What do you think?
Hello Phil...
I'm not much of a Gibson
Fan myself, In fact I could go on about that for a long rant
!!!!
The reason I haven't said
anything about this in my rants is. Basically I didn't know
about it.
After I read your letter, I
do concur with your findings !!!!
I don't like the short
stubby necks, I don't like the fret size, I don't like rosewood
fretboards with plastic inlays (on supposedly American Guitars)
I never even got in as deep
as the tuning problem !!!
Ed
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