Bluebird Coach For Sale, Wanderlodge For Sale

Bluebird Wanderlodge Motor Coach
Low Mileage  56,000 Miles

 You Won't Find A Cleaner Bluebird Wanderlodge!!!

Located In Las Vegas

Never Any Pets,  Shoes Off, Professionally detailed twice yearly
NON SMOKER  NO PETS
Vehicle ls Very Clean !!

First Owner 1990 to 1998 Retired Bluebird Exec,

Originally Paid $240.000.00  in 1999
invested another $160,000.00 
$400,00O.00 total INVESTED

Lost Garage Must Sell !!!!

No Reasonable Offer Refused
We Are Downsizing
Will Accept 26 foot 1973 to 1976 GMC Classic Motor Home On Trade
Also Will Accept Large Gun Collections, Boats, Large Guitar Collections.
Vixen Motorhomes,  Large Gas Guzzling Luxury Cars
1960 to 1999 Rolls Royce Automobile Silver Cloud Preferably
 

edroman@gmail.com

Engine

Detroit 8V92DDEC Turbo Diesel Pusher, 475 HP   (Biggest One Available)

Trans

4 Speed Allison HT 754

Mileage

56,000 Highway Miles.    Bus is started & run every week

Chassis & GVW

Blue Bird,    44, 000 Lbs   With  10 Airbag Suspension

Tow Rating

12,000 lbs

Interior

Blue Leather,  Light Ivory Laminates  Premium Silver Blue Carpet, Wood Floors

Exterior

Silver Base With Grey & Blue Accents (All Stainless Steel)

Hydraulic Lift 

Capable of lifting and carrying a Harley full dress motorcycle,   $1,500.00 lbs

Full Basement,

The basement is big enough to store a small trail bike or 4 or 5 bicycles,   full crawl through

25 KW Diesel Generator

Operates on motorized slide directly in front of vehicle

Suspension System

Leaf Spring, Coil Spring & 10 Airbags

Transmission Retarder

Factory Installed Jake Brake System    ( A definite must )

Tires  New In 2006

Less than 4,000 miles on new tires   10 tires, Tandem Rear Wheels with Air Bag Leveling

Backup Monitor

New in 2002, Color Monitor & New Camera

Propane System

Replaced In Full And Updated 2005

Inverters New Heavy Duty Upgraded 1500 PACS Deluxe Inverter System 2003   
Charging System Custom Designed, Heavy Duty Battery & Backup starter system,  Solar Panel For Roof Included.
Alternators Dual 130 AMP Alternators 
Batteries New In 2009 8 Batteries meticulously maintained
Refrigerator New In 2006, Large Double Door In Galley,  New Freezer In Basement 2009  Icemaker
Kitchen Microwave, Nutone Food Processor, Large Pantry, Stove, Outdoor Grill, Corian Countertops.
Leveling Full Extremely Heavy Duty Leveling System, remote controlled, with Driver Gauges & Controls
Washer & Dryer    Brand New (Never Used)
Lights Outside 4 Flush Mounted Docking Lights Built in the Chassis,  Remote Control Dual Searchlights Roof mounted
Lights Inside Flourescent,& Incandescent- Over/Under Cabinet Mounted Indirect Lighting, Wall Lamps  
Air Conditioning  (13.5 BTU each) 4 Separate Super Cold Blowing, 3 Roof Mounted Units,  Using only 2 will make the Coach very cold !!!
Basement 

Built In Air Compressor In Basement

Bathroom Microphor Toilet, Full Shower & Mini Bath Tub, Separate Fan System & Koolamatic Roof Fan
Outdoor Grill Exclusive Bluebird Propane Grill On Slide Out In Separate Compartment Outside.  No Muss No Fuss
Water Tanks Fresh Water, Grey Water, & Black Water with Power Dump Valves
Security Built In Hidden Safe, Heavy Duty Construction Vehicle Is Built like a Sherman Tank    Y2K Approved
Security (Theft) Hidden Kill Switch, Lojack System
PA System Outdoor Spkrs W/CB Radio Microphone,  Make Announcements, Play Music, Disturb Your Neighbors !!!!
Gauges Full Lit System,  See Pictures, Looks Like A Jet Cockpit.    No Other Coach Company Comes Close
Storage No other Coach I have seen at any price range comes close to the Bluebird, See Photos,
Storage Tremendous Amount of Overhead storage compartments, 
Storage Steel Roof Racks Suitable for mounting pods and/or Large Tents, Rowboats, Canoes, Etc
Hot Water Instant & Very Hot. After Coach Has Been Running For a While You Get A Full 30 Minutes Hot Water
Floors Hardwood & Premium Wall To Wall Carpet
Entertainment Upgraded Sound System With Tape & CD
Entertainment 2 Televisions,  VHS Player & DVD Player
Entertainment Bluebird Horn  (Plays Music)  You Select From list of 50 songs horn plays them very loudly outside
Entertainment Roof Mount Retractable TV Antenna  There is No Satellite System,
Awnings Full Window Awning Package, All Work Well, All In Excellent Condition
Interior Curtains Fully Motorized, Very Convenient, No Muss No Fuss,    Full Curtain System on Front Windows
Sunroofs 2 Glass Skylight, Sunroofs that open !!!
Furniture Convertible Couch with Built In Drawers,  Full Leather Companion Chairs
Furniture Original Bluebird Brand Premium Outdoor Chairs & Loungers Included
Furniture Companion Folding Small Picnic Table
Furniture Full Dinette, Converts to Smaller Bed
Bedroom Queen Bed, 2 Nightstands W/ Drawers & Storage Motorized Drapes,  Secure Full Privacy
Windows Tinted 
Floor Protection Custom Made Heavy Duty Vinyl Blue Carpet Protector Coverings. The Carpet is in excellent condition.
  Rear Full Width Mud Flap
Seating  Seats 10 Plus Driver  Very Comfortably,
  Chrome Wheel Covers
Pull Out Storage Slides 3 Slide Out Storage Trays, Slide o matics, Mounted In Basement
  Garage Stored Till 2007 then canopied
Water Pump System Fully Replaced In 2009
Freezer Large Freezer Unit In The Basement   Added in 2009
Air Hose On Reel New Air Hose added to extend to all tires from the compressor 2009
Powering Up The Vehicle

You Can start Up on Battery Power  or 
(New Solar Charger Included)  has not been installed yet.  
You Can Start up by Plugging the bus into AC 220 50 AMPS,   
You Can Use The 20 KW Generator
You Can Run The Inverters With Propane to Charge the Batteries
There is a Spare Battery Which operates a different starter

 

 

View 0f Upper Console (Large Storage compartments on both sides of TV)

Dash, With Stereo, Cassette, CD, Jake Brake, Rear View Monitor
Leveling System. Gauges

Overhead Console
DVD & VHS in Center Drawers In the Console
looks Like New Inside


These are some facts & conclusions that may interest you

Recently I decided to spend a couple of days looking and pricing coaches.  My reasoning was to see what the going prices were.  We don't have a Bluebird Dealer in Vegas so I contacted Holland RV Center who is the big guy on Bluebirds.   

I was able to ascertain the facts below !

1, Buying from a dealer you can expect to pay approximately $60,000.00 more for a used Class A RV than from a private party.  This number applies to Bluebird Wanderlodge's built between 1980 and 1992.  Remember there are huge differences between Wanderlodge's & other Bluebirds!!!

The advantage to paying that extra amount is simply that if something goes wrong within the first 30 to 60 days the dealer will probably take care of it for you.  Even if he sold it as is.  Most of them are pretty accommodating to minor problems say up to $5,000.00 .  When you have a major problem, like a transmission or motor failure, they usually expect you to go to your aftermarket insurance provider. Those policies are inexpensive and really worth the investment. 

I looked at all types of class A tandem rear wheel busses, Prevost's, American Eagle, and several Bluebirds. The average price on what I was looking at was between $120.000.00 & $150.000.00.  Some lower and some higher but remember I said average.

The vast majority of what I was able to see were American Eagles which is a great looking bus from a distance but the quality of construction versus the Bluebird is almost comical.  Every single one of the 15 or so that I looked at had been redone.  Most of them were made in the mid 1970's and had been redone in the mid to late 90's and the prices ran about $90,000.00.  I found one really nice one but the price was $165.000.00 and it had 500.000  miles on it. These diesel motors are good for a Million miles but remember my Bluebird only has 56,000 miles on it.

Typically, the sheet metal sides were wavy and looked homemade on every one of them but one. The carpeting inside was always pretty cheap and in every case stained, The upholstery on the dash & seat looked amateurish and very poorly laid out. A couple of them had some interesting layouts inside but I noticed things like watermarks where the ceiling had leaked, floors buckling, really poor design of color combinations. Hack Job paintwork on the outside  and air conditioners hardly working. The ride was quite smooth on every one of them but the drivers seat in every case had tears and rips in them and the instrumentation was about 20 percent; of what I had grown used to with the Bluebird.

I concluded repeatedly, that my Bluebird should be worth well over $300,000.00 in comparison, based on the prices I was seeing. The cost of redoing the Interior, to bring it anywhere near the specs of the Bluebird, would have cost more than the bus was selling for in almost every case.

Everything looked homemade and designed by someone with little or no design experience.  Remember the Bluebird Wanderlodge is the only Class A Motorhome that is built by a large manufacturer. All of the others, are conversions built by little shops around the country, who might know mechanics and carpentry, but certainly have little or no grasp at all for fashion and design. The exceptions to that rule, Companies like Marathon & Liberty build incredibly nice conversion coaches today.  Remember they are still conversion coach companies. Their conversions sell at prices way over a million dollars. Some of them have gone over 2 Million dollars. They can afford to hire professional designers and engineers. However, when you are looking at Prevost conversions, in the price range under $200.000.00 you won't get that much.  Because even if you buy an old Marathon they were a smaller company back then and their early stuff doesn't compare to what they are doing now.

I have concluded, time and time again. that I could never ever be able to replace my Bluebird for the price I was asking for it.

 

The comfortable all Leather & Corian dinette is opposite the galley.   In front of the dinette are two more leather chairs with a combination game table and mini bar.

The tall closet on the left houses a combination stacked washer & dryer that have never been used.  These could be removed to add a gun safe or even more storage space.

The door on the right goes into the bathroom. It also swings out and will also serve to separate the front from the back for privacy.

The cabinets are all beautiful laminate on ball bearing rides and they all lock tightly during transportation.

This may be an older bus but the all solid doors and super sturdy construction is far superior to most of the Million Dollar plus Prevost's & MCI's you can buy today.

A Word About Construction,


No other bus in the world is built like a Bluebird. A Prevost, MCI, none of these are built as well as A Bluebird Wanderlodge.  The Bluebird uses 11 gauge steel walls and a 13 gauge diamond-plate roof. Nothing else comes even close to the sheer ruggedness of a Bluebird. In 1998 1999 all the survivalist groups who were afraid of the big computer, power, crash meltdown that never happened did tons of research on vehicles that were suited for long hauls (Getting Out Of Dodge) that would be able to take the rigors of possible chaos. The Bluebird Wanderlodge was the clear winner in every review I read. Nothing compares to the sheer heavy duty construction not even today.

If A Prevost Coach rammed into the side of the Bluebird, The Prevost would be in worse shape. In fact all but 3 Wanderlodge Bluebirds that have ever been made are still running on the road.  (Figure as of 2002)

The Wanderlodge is not a Conversion Coach like the Prevost & MCI. Yes you can buy a Bluebird bus and have it converted but the Wanderlodge model is the only real heavy duty bus that is actually factory designed from the ground up.

#1 When you buy a Prevost or MCI you buy from a conversion shop like Vantare, or Marathon, Liberty, Custom Coach etc etc. You don't actually buy the Vehicle from Prevost,  In The Case of The Wanderlodge there is only one way to buy and that is through one of 3 Dealer outlets in The USA The entire Motor-home is manufactured right at the Bluebird factory.

The first thing you will notice is the AC System in the Bluebird is clearly better than the MCI or Prevost. There have been significant improvements from Prevost & MCI in the recent years but the price will be as much as 11 times more than What I am selling this bus for. 

Prevost, MCI & Most other Busses are all electric, There is no backup propane system, If you want to go camping somewhere besides a campground with Electricity then you will be running on batteries.  Good Luck starting Your Coach in the morning !!!!

Also the Bluebird refrigeration system is dual Propane/Electricity powered so that you can keep your refrigerator running supercold even on long hauls without straining your battery.

The Gauges & Instrumentation are worlds better in the Bluebird, The storage capacity & Fuel capacity exceeds the fancier Prevost.

The Prevost will impress the first time coach buyer who looks at the fancy mirrored ceilings and chandeliers. But believe me that will get old quickly. Nothing beats the Bluebird for practicality & intelligent layout and design.  I am in the music business and many of my friends have Prevost entertainer coaches.  They cost 3 times as much and you don't get as much. The newer Bluebirds have been obviously leaning in the Prevost direction because one of the reasons the average consumer buys one of these units is to impress his friends.


 

Full Galley, Microwave, Slide Out Pantry, Food Processor, Blender All The Goodies

Looks Like New Inside.

Built in Compressor in the basement

Beautiful Soft Leather Interior
Corian Game Table with Built in Bar Under it
 

 


Seating for 10 comfortably

2 Front Seats,  2 Game Table Chairs, 2 Booth Chairs,

1 fold-up couch with storage in base

Tons of Storage Above & Below
Upper Storage extends all the way to the front and on both sides of the TV


Comparing this dashboard & instrumentation panel to any other coach out there is laughable.


Mirrored Game Table
Curtains are all motorized and extend all the way to the front blinds


Check Out Front Overhead Storage

 

The only thing currently wrong with the bus 
The heavy duty rubber around the wheels is scratched up but the pieces are replaceable
The Leveling System works fine but it's a little slow,
 

Built In Slideout Grill
All Propane lines & tanks replaced in 2006


Full Width Mud Flap, Heavy Duty Towing Package
Hydraulic Motorcycle lift on the back will hold 2 small bikes
Or one Harley Full Dress Hog !!!



Picture Of Bed Area

 

 

Article Reprinted "Buying A Used Motorhome" Read This
 
Bluebird Wanderlodge
The Best Kept Secret in Used Motor Homes

The market place is all too often a minefield, and the motor home used vehicle market certainly is not much different. It almost never reveals its best buys easily. If you want to get some kind of feel for what is happening in that market, sit and watch the comings and goings of motor home owners (and trailers too) all winter in a Texas or Florida snow bird campground. You will see all makes and models of well built, fairly well built, and not so well built coaches parade in and out. When asked, most owners will tell you what a fabulous buy they got on a used coach, and how great it is, and go on to name higher prices for them than it would have cost for a good used Blue Bird.

When I purchased a 1979 Blue Bird FC35 ft with over 180,000 miles on it, my wife was aghast. With that many miles things were certain to start going wrong real soon. Before long she noticed the upholstery was in very good shape and even if it was 18 years old! Then she could find no flaws in the wood work and cabinetry. It was then she began to really realize what a Wanderlodge was and how very strong it was built, and she began to relax.

I recently had a couple of truck mechanics do some work on my coach and they marveled at the heavy duty construction. They compared it to a Kenworth or a Peterbuilt and both said it was more heavily made, and pointed out that it was likely to see 500,000 mile if serviced regularly.

The Wanderlodge is a cousin to a top of the line school bus that a school districts fully expect will do daily service delivering 40 to 50 kids to and fro and not breakdown in the process or cost a lot to operate, and for periods of ten to fifteen years. Such service requires top designs and top components to ensure the unit will continue to serve. Well, that is a Blue Bird Wanderlodge!!

The secret I mentioned is that few people buying used coaches really know how well built these units really are. Most, when faced with the decision, will buy a used 1996 whatever on a light truck chassis because it is newer and they only have to pay $70,000. Put 200,000 miles on it and it is ready for the heap. For the same dollars a fairly new Blue Bird will roll 500,000 miles and sit around asking for more. For sure I am, and now my wife is totally convinced we have the best buy around and what is a bonus, she still is a classy lassie! ( the wife too).

So why am I Preaching to the choir?? Why tell a bunch of Blue Bird Owners what most already know?? Because the rest of the world does not know how tough these coaches really are, and they will never know unless you tell them. If you do not, Blue Birds will remain a best kept secret. If the person who you are talking to doubts you, you might point out that the Bird is every bit as well built as an MCI bus and they start converting an ex greyhound at 900,000 miles or more,. Only then does it start its life as a motor home.

Harvey Lawrence VB8

I reprinted this article in an effort to educate potential buyers what I found out when I purchased my third RV.  A 1990 Bluebird in 1998 after spending 2 years of due diligence and looking at over 350 different Busses from Los Angeles to Florida. to Maine.
Whenever we were on the road in our 35 foot Damon RV we would routinely stop and look at Prevost's, MCI, Greyhounds, GMC's, FMC's, Vixen's, American Eagles, During that two year timespan in 1997 1998 we saw very few Bluebirds .

I surmised after all my searching and hunting that the absolute best diesel pusher motorhomes 40 to 45 feet are the 1990 to  Bluebird Wanderlodge. (Not Bluebird BMC).

The Best Small Gasoline Powered Motorhome 23 to 26 feet is the GMC Classic made in the years 1973 through 1978.  (Honorable mention to the 1974 Vixens)

What these 2 motorhomes have in common is that they are the only 2 motorhomes built from the factory as RV's. Virtually everything else is a conversion built by some aftermarket firm.

In buying used, I would never touch a what I call a cardboard box like a Winnebago, or any of those truck chassis models that start falling apart as soon as the initial warranty is gone.

A Bluebird Wanderlodge Or The Small GMC Classic Are Like Old Harleys, You Cannot Buy Better, Almost All Of Them Are Still On The Road, If Something Ever Goes Wrong You Fix It & Keep On Going Forever !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Brand New Refrigerator


 



Different Angle

Main Doorway



 

 

Carpeted & Wood Floors

 

 



Washer Dryer Has Never Been Used

 

 

 

 

 

This Picture Shows Left Side Console
There Is Yet Another Control Console on the left side of the seat

 

 

 

 

 

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1990 Exceptionally Nice Bluebird Wanderlodge, 40",  56K Miles,
Diesel Pusher Detroit 8V92DDEC,  Largest Transmission  Allison 754. 
Heavy Duty Motorcycle lift. Never pets, Never smoking.  
Many pictures & full description on the internet

 call  Ed Roman   702-597-0147

edroman@gmail.com